I wasnt aware of any of that. This means nothing at all, it's almost a tradition. Oh, goodness. She was with Michael Jackson and was actually working with Prince when he passed. Ralph Humphrey was very helpful that whole time because I had been getting into odd times, but not at the level Frank was doing it. But what a great tour and what a great band. No, the frontman is the most important man in most of the cases and in live acts, but remember, there's rock without guitar or keyboards, but there's no rock without drums or Bass (Except in a few and veryrarecases). I read it and just wept because most of it had happened by that point. He was a virtuoso, no question, but most of his stuff was straight 16ths. I guess he is as close as you can get being a Genesis member without being one. He said they were going to be doing something totally different and they werent interested. I think he got a little annoyed since I had done an interview and they asked which I enjoyed [Genesis or Collins solo] more. Phil Collins says he lost his ability to drum during 2007's Genesis reunion tour. But Im over it now. He was a great writer and arranger. Not at all. They were really nice, cool people to work with. Santana had actually asked me to play in his band right before the call came from Phil. Steve saw it as a compromise joining the band. Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Progatron, Feb 4, 2021. He was already going on tour in summers between school. It was a rare thing where the lead singer of a band is also the drummer. It was quite an adjustment for me. A couple of the Drum Duets were released as singles in several places in South America and some countries in Europe, which is kind of cool. As a matter of fact, we had already been told what dates to hold for 2008. No mud slinging at all. When the audition came, I was absolutely up for it. And then I ended up doing Phils Motown thing and that didnt go well. But Steve wa always a Genesis fan, even when he wanted to make some modifications, he only could achive that making it himself, and lets be honest, he used an expensive cast: LOL. I found out I wasnt going to Chicago and then Phil [Collins] called me himself, basically offering the Genesis gig. I mean to be keep in the background in their importance in the bands. I thougfh the consensus was that Collins was not the only reason, but just a small part of Genesis's evolving intoa pop band? They brought in Bill Bruford for that one tour [in 1976], but it was a fairly short tour. It was great. Do you recall first hearing In the Air Tonight? They sent over some cassettes. That wasnt going to work. In fact, we wound up doing a tour opening for them. As of late though, I think Phil Collins has sold out, but not the with Genesis. On the We Cant Dance tour in 1992, did you sense that Phil wasnt going to continue with Genesis after it? I dont know when he slept. Maybe once in a lifetime. Ive done some teaching, not a lot, but at the moment I have a handful of private students at a school. Id always be checking out the rhythm section because some of them brought their own rhythm section. Fortunately, the bass player [Bob Babbitt] stepped in and started the tune. Reading the book I get the feeling that he only felt really involved in Selling EnglandFirst he says he had a slight inferior complex as a composer, his ideas were not well recieved, his marriage ended etc. Steve and I always stayed pretty good friends. At one point, they were talking about going out with Peter Gabriel and Steve Hackett. I think Onion Head's communication skills are obnoxious. Oh, my goodness. That stood out more than anything. Except the horrible version of Your Own Special Way (Already horrible) because Paul Carrack sounds as Elmer Fudd , the mediocre Bossa Nova version of I Know What I like and the hard to swallow Waiting Room Only, the rest of the album (8 more tracks) is outstanding. You guys have always done that. He put everything into it. This is the live version of Inside Out, recorded in Berlin in 1990. It is an impressing line up. It came up again [in 1984] and it was just great. I was playing in the San Francisco production of The Wiz back then. I think that Bruford said that in 1992-93 for the "Notes of the Edge" website. My audition consisted just of jamming. Part of that was no matter how well I prepared, he always made some pretty intense changes. Chester Thompson and Phil Collins Chester Thompson - From Jazz to Genesis Aug 17, 2018 by Bill King Comments Its been 42 years since drummer Chester Thompson, bassist Jeff Breeh, and myself were the backing/touring piano jazz trio for the Pointer Sisters. I wonder something, this guy was never a Genesis member, he was describe as a "Musical friend of the band", what the hell is he doing here? Phil Collins and Chester Thompson Interview for Drummer in 1977 during the period of Seconds Out Music Department: The Who's Tommy, the Amazing Journey. The band stays like it is. Alphonso had been there three years. Ive never heard anything he did that had that particular feel to it. Then it got weird because they got comfortable with two drummers playing. So Phil did pop some good , some average and some contrived but all big selling. He called up and said, Would you be up for doing a tour with these guys? He explained what was going on and stuff. The band was really good. But the opening fill, all of that, is me. I called Joe and was like, I just got this message from Wayne saying not to come to the studio. It lets me read for about 90 seconds before it yanks the article. We learned how to deal with it. That must have been a very satisfying experience. Later that year, he also cancelled two gigs after falling in his hotel room and hitting his head, a result of the drop foot mentioned above. But I understand a totally different thing from your quotes, but again it's only my opinion. [Laughs] If I could have him, Id be touring with him right now. Not the first day. Many of them are self-taught. He said, I double-track everything anyway, so it would be great if we could just do it together. But they all live very close together and they always had a set writing period where theyd be like, Okay, from blank to blank, were writing. They would each do that, come back with what they had and basically it was just too easy to go, OK, lets put this down. And thats what they did. I dont think that far ahead. But at this point in life, if I could do my own stuff, Id really love that. Yeah. They said to me, Youre playing it wrong. But the manager had gone out of his way to call me before we took the Christmas break since they were so happy with the tracks wed done. After Invisible Touch, I remember their conversations where they agreed to take five years off. Has Phil talked to you at all in the past 10 years? A little bit later he goes, Man, I think I broke my finger. We all went, Come on. In the book Tony says that Phil liked Yes and brought some of their playing ability to Genesis. Terry Bozio: good drummer but he didn`t compose anything for the band U.K. Was successful in the Missing Persons Pop band. Like I said, it was never a band in that sense. What are you talking about?. The other guy called himself Sonship, Woody Theus. You didnt finish the tour, though. Yeah. And even though I listened to the cassettes, I didnt get a real feel for what was going on before I got there. When Phil Collins moved from the drum kit to the front of the stage in 1976, Genesis hired former Yes drummer Bill Bruford to join them on tour. Its me in the beginning and then in the middle of the tune, when it goes into the bridge with the swing feel, you hear a completely different ambience, different drum sound, different everything. I want to go back here and talk about your life. If you like it, get Tokyo Tapes, with live versions of various songs from this album, ITCOTCK and I Talk to the Wind by King Crimsonplus a semi acoustic version of Heat of the Moment and a lot of Hackett material. I guess I had clarity of what I hoped to accomplish. Wed do eight-hour rehearsals. It was a different situation in Chicago. And he put down some intense, complicated stuff. How was it for you culturally? I was the second drummer. Im sure if you spent time with him one-on-one it would be different. As it turned out, I wound up doing a little, brief drum-clinic tour down there in Australia. I was like, Man, when you turned around and looked, it threw me off.. It wasnt the same kind of luxury and stuff, which is fine., He added that Genesis was very balanced, instead of having a leader, and everybody had their say. But his first experience with Collins as boss was kind of a drag. He only truly related to drums," Thompson explained. Bill Graham and I could just never agree on the money. But if youre a music-ed student, you need to learn a different instrument group every semester. Probably not. He told me what he had in mind. In between, were doing this project. thxs VB; Black Market split in half drumwise; good stuff. Phil wrote in his book that he had a major drinking problem in that time period. I had a conversation with Mike Rutherford, not knowing what they were going to be doing. In 2017, Collins revealed that he was a type-2 diabetic, undergoing treatment with a hyperbaric chamber after the condition caused obsesses on his foot which became infected. He would be onstage. It wasnt the same kind of luxury and stuff, which is fine. !11, Prog Bands, Artists and Genres Appreciation, Piano, Programming, Orchestration, Fender Rhodes, Fortepiano, Keyboards, Keyboards, Programming, Orchestration, Engineer, Keyboards, Mixing, Orchestration, Engineer, Programming, Guitar, Orchestration, ?, Main Performer, Harmonica, Percussion, Vocals, Producer, Vocals (Background). Oh, my goodness! In the latter years, he had a pretty clear picture. The five of us lined up for a picture. It was something called Kung Fu. Unfortunately, it never got released. I probably heard more Elvis than anything in the Fifties. It was pretty profitable. It ended up being a little awkward since they were going to be down there for seven weeks. Id say we agree on his drummingskills. It was just different. We go in the studio with Jaco, and Alphonsos feel and Jacos feel are radically different. And again, if you werent busy enough, you joined the Bee Gees for a tour in 1989. Thats what they did when they left their gigs with Miles [Davis] and Cannonball [Adderley] to start Weather Report. He was a member from the beginning, when they did there really masterful work, but no one seems to mention that. They were all good friends to the point where they said, Lets do this. So the vibe was great. It was a lot. I guess life had happened in between. Still love to practice. Chester Thompson. IvanI think we have reached the end of our discussion wether Phil is nasty or not. If you were in Franks band, you had to be willing to be silly. Still his guitarplay wasvery important to the music even if his composing didnt reach the albums. I think that he became popular with housewives, and that was his "guilt". By then, I had heard a lot of the prog-rock stuff and was very interested to play with those guys. There was a short tour coming up and he reached out to me. He would have subdivisions within a bar. Its very rewarding and Im involved with an organization here called the Nashville Jazz Workshop. Frank was playing guitar. Id say we agree on his drummingskills. And they had great songs. Peter Criss (Even lead vocals), Keith Moon, Carmine Appice, Roger Taylor (Much better backing vocalist than anybody else and even lead a couple of times). Collins was perfectly happy to exist behind his large collection of toms and cymbals during Genesis' Peter Gabriel-led . And I dont want to ever only play one thing. Yeah. He told me that I sounded like crap and all that. Other than that, Id go back to the hotel. Well, basically, I hadnt prepared in as much detail as I usually did. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Sat 27th Nov 2021 20.00 GMT. What were your early impressions of Frank? And at the end of the show, he just went off. Theres a great jazz community, too. Phil helped survive Genesis. [Laughs] Yeah. One day, he got pretty frustrated with me and literally cussed me out in front of everybody. You couldnt be less than what you were supposed to be. Affiliate programs and Right. Exactly. We were out there hitting it together and theres something about that. Her parents are now in her band. And so when he quit again at the end of that, I think there was a shock. Hed teach me how to play along with albums and where to put the fill and how to sing along with the melody and not get lost in the solos and how to make it swing. Bands always change, and poor Phil just happened to headline the band as it started turning away from it's roots, and he gets branded as the bands destructor. There were all these conversations going back and forth that Id try to track. Hes gone., Were the dates in Australia and other markets you didnt hit the first time? After that, I went back to Baltimore to a community college for a couple of years. I started with those frat parties, bars, and little dives. Exactly. He made the comment at his press conference to announce his Not Dead Yet European comeback tour, which kicks off with a five-night residency at London's Royal Albert Hall in June 2017. Just to mention a few key members that played drums. Again, Ive got no grudge. He is an actor, known for The Who's Tommy, the Amazing Journey (1993), Genesis: Man on the Corner (1982) and Phil Collins: Sussudio (1985). Phil Collins / Chester Thompson (Genesis) Drum Duet 1980 - 84 - YouTube 0:00 / 6:04 Phil Collins / Chester Thompson (Genesis) Drum Duet 1980 - 84 Seven Stones 2.15K subscribers Subscribe 1.5K. and (apart fromthe bluesalbum)he hasstayed on the same ground, progrelated and close to classical guitarmusic. How were the Phil solo tours? When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, Just trying to make the best use of the time. He knows what he likes Well Steve was recording a couple of other albums and he was wealthy by that moment, his dream was always to make Genesis sound as he wanted to listen them. He said, I just thought you should know that. So, of course, I went on doing what I did. The worst thing you could do in Weather Report was play the exact same thing you played the night before. Well, immediately after McDuff, I spent about six months in Boston. He also has composed good music, not only elevator music, as you say. After rehearsal, Id go back to the hotel, go to sleep, wake up at 3 a.m., practice for a couple of hours, go back to sleep, wake up, have breakfast, and do it again. Yeah. How did you wind up touring with Ben E. King in 1969? I checked with the manager. There were pictures taken and all that. There was no leader. He was into a lot of the American jazz drummers.

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